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USMNT vs. Jamaica, 2024 Concacaf Nations League Quarterfinals: Match thread

The United States Men’s National Team take the field for the first competitive matches under Mauricio Pochettino when they take on Jamaica in the first leg of the Concacaf Nations League quarterfinals. The USMNT enter The Office, one of the more difficult places to play in all of Concacaf, to take on the Reggae Boyz.

The team enters needing a pick-me-up after losing to Mexico on the road last month. The USMNT only have 4 wins in 2024, and all of them have come in the state of Texas (3 at JerryWorld in Arlington, 1 in Austin). They need to figure out how to get a result against a Jamaica team that almost beat them back in March and has been inching upwards in terms of form.

Getting a win in Kingston would allow the USMNT to have some breathing room when they return home to play the second leg in St. Louis on Monday. If they can’t get a result, the pressure is on to win in order to advance in a tournament where they are the only team to ever touch the trophy. It should be a fun match in a pretty loud Office tonight!

USA vs. New Zealand

Advertised Kick-off Time: 8:00pm Eastern, 5:00pm Pacific

Venue: Independence Park, Kingston

Available TV: TNT (English), truTV (English), Universo (Spanish)

Available streaming: Max (English), Peacock (Spanish), FuboTV (Free Trial)

Donald Wine has been a soccer fan since he first kicked a ball as a kid. He moved to DC in 2007 and quickly joined the soccer scene, helping to establish the DC chapter of the American Outlaws and serving as one of the capos and drummers for over a decade. He is currently the manager of Stars & Stripes FC, but this community is where he got his start, and he continues to contribute to anything DC soccer related for this site because he enjoys it so much.
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Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 4:59 pm

Sorta stoked to watch, even if I don’t know how it plays out

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 4:59 pm

And thanks for the thread, Donald!

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 7:38 pm

I had a hunch that McKennie might get a run out at playmaker, but dear Buddha, what the fuck is Tessman doing in a starting lineup in an important game?

He’s a touch less, position less, talentless lunk. He is broad, and that’s about it. Fuck.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:02 pm

As usual the pitch condition is bad at The Office in Jamaica who are pressing high to start.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:06 pm

Pepi! Its 1-0 in the 5′ to the US. Pulisic played him through and Pepi beats the goalie far post.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:10 pm

I didn’t realize that he’d gotten starts and goals recently for PSV, and about time he got some minutes

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:06 pm

Well, Pepi may not be a supersub going forward, great run and finish

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Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:08 pm

Robinson unable to finish what looked to be an easy chance

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:11 pm

Pulisic skies it off a good cutback by Mckennie. Good early chance creation, but gotta put them in when you’re dominating

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:13 pm

And penalty to Jamaica committed by Turner. Clear pen.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:14 pm

That forward dribble was pure, away-in-Jamaica chaos

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:14 pm

TURNER SAVES THE PK!!!

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:15 pm

Wow, what a stuff

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:19 pm

Gotta say, do not like the idea of endless stoppage time in Kingston, let’s get this game chugging

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:20 pm

Cardoso is down off the ball…that’s never a good sign.

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Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:21 pm

Tillman is coming on for Cardoso after 20 minutes due to injury.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:22 pm

Interesting to see who that pushes into DM

Talonesque #
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:23 pm

Huh, looks like Tillman is actually in the double pivot, would not have guessed that would be the move

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:26 pm

Bailey phases through Tessman’s space. Martino seems very complimentary of a player I’ve seen nothing from

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:28 pm

It worries me that McKenzie is the best we’ve got next to an agin Ream. Once Tim’s gone, this could be a glaring weakness

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:29 pm

Donovan Pines? How’s he doing across the pond anyone know?

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:32 pm

I’ve come to think of Pines as a player with magnificent physical gifts and some really tough weaknesses, including an unfortunate center of gravity, and underdeveloped fine motor skills in the box

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:36 pm

According to TransferMarkt he has has 12 appearances, 2 goals, 2 yellows, and 1 red in 691′ across all competitions so far this season for Barnsley. He’s only gone 90 mins in 3 of those 12 games (2x in League One, and 1x in EFL Cup).

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:38 pm

Wow, that’s a lot of goals for a CB in that time. I will say, Daryl Dike has really led me to distrust form for that club

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:56 pm

2/(691/90) = ~0.26 goals per 90

According to Google Search AI Overview the average G/90 for a CB is 0.1. So for a CB that is quite a clip that Pines has.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:28 pm

Jamaica pressing the US high and keeping us pinned in our own half at the moment.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:30 pm

You mean when they’re not hitting the deck?

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Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:32 pm

true…

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:32 pm

Tessman skies it from long range….no where close.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:33 pm

Martino is losing his mind for him, I do not get it. He’s a handsome dude, but not that good looking

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:41 pm

Ref letting a lot of contact go

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:43 pm

THIS IS CONCACAF!!!

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:44 pm

You’re right, silly me

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:46 pm

4 mins of stoppage seems about right with injuries, the sub, and a penalty.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:47 pm

Will be interesting to see the final stoppage numbers, though

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:47 pm

Wow talk about a late offside call….

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:49 pm

Now McKennie is down for a couple minutes, but is back up thankfully.

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:49 pm

Hope Weston’s alright, Jamaica going in for some… unconventional challenges

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:50 pm

I mean its CONCACAF….its to be expected no

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:51 pm

I haven’t seen any nipple twisting, the CONCACAF gods are not pleased! 😉

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:50 pm

Ref calls it right on 4 mins of stoppage.

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:55 pm

Well, I guess that’s why we love the game. Could have been 2 or 3 up, yet lucky to have the lead at half after a sensational pk save.

Not that I want this to be a shootout, but we need more goals.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 8:57 pm

Its a 2 leg series…I don’t think they go to PKs after this leg if tied…but the US has 1 away goal which is massive.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 8:59 pm

Oh, I didn’t mean a pk shootout. Meant a two way sprint fest with a lot of goals.

And we need more goals just for the result, this could descend into chaos without insurance

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:01 pm

Its a CONCACAF game a descent into chaos at some point is almost guaranteed.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:03 pm

Normally, I’d say anything but a humiliating chaos loss in Kingston should be taken to the bank… but this team is playing a pure home and away knockout, and I’d love to not have to thrash them at home when Blake is still Blake

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:07 pm

I know this isn’t the point of the game, but I honestly never thought I’d see Mason Holgate play a game I would watch again

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:11 pm

McKennie picks up a yellow.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:12 pm

I don’t think he needed to make that foul and take the card there.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:12 pm

Real dumb one, too. Shirt pull in the opponents’s final third? Yeesh

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:14 pm

If McKennie’s challenge was yellow then that should’ve been a yellow for the Jamaican player just now.

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Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:17 pm

Is it just me, or does Pulisic look a little physically funny/different this game?

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:21 pm

A little, but I don’t know exactly how…

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:26 pm

Me neither, but a little disconcerting, just visually

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:19 pm

Geez, this sub on the left side for Jamaica thinks he prime Ronaldo. Thankfully wrong so far

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:23 pm

A yellow is shown to Damian Lowe for Jamaica. This game is getting CONCACF flavored feisty.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:23 pm

Yeah, might want to take McKennie off, not exactly a cool head in these situations

Talonesque #
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:24 pm

Plus, would like to see Busio

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:27 pm

Okay that one was too close for comfort just now.

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:28 pm

Wow. How the fuck did Holgate not put that in

Talonesque #
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:29 pm

I guess the answer is Musah. Good lord

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:29 pm

You know what, we got away with a Ream handball, at least in real time

Talonesque #
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:30 pm

That was practically tricep volleyball.

As things get scrummy on the field

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:32 pm

Apparently not clear enough for VAR to intervene after the ref says it was shoulder.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:33 pm

I’d be livid if it was my team, that was def not shoulder on the replay

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:30 pm

Robinson is picking up a yellow for the US and Bailey picking up a yellow for Jamaica.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:31 pm

Very finely poised, this disciplinary situation

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:33 pm

Vasquez for Pepi and Busio for McKennie in the 71′. 1 sub window and 2 subs left for the US.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:35 pm

Jamaica with a period of sustained pressure keeping the US pinned in our defensive 3rd.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:36 pm

Tessman fouled way after he passed the ball. How is that not a yellow with how late that tackle was?

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:37 pm

Mason Holgate gets a yellow for a reckless challenge for Jamaica.

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:38 pm

Vital headed interception by Matt Turner, yet another yellow for Jamaica soon after

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:41 pm

It’s nice to know, that even with international reinforcements, Jamaica away is still wrestling a greased up hog on meth

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:45 pm

And its just not the poor quality of the pitch either. Jamaica is always feisty and a hard battle.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:46 pm

Meaning, this fixture cannot be refined with European experience, it’s just chaos

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:45 pm

Vasquez with a first timer, but its right at the goalie.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:46 pm

Yeah, I don’t think he’s a real depth chart challenger.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:47 pm

Mason Holgate picks up a 2nd yellow and is sent off with the red.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:48 pm

A really dumb foul by Holgate.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:48 pm

Yep

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:48 pm

Trusty for Tessman and Zendejas for Musah.

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:50 pm

Think it’s smart, Zendejas in particular has the touch and possession instincts to kill this game off, even if he hasn’t shown a killer edge going forward

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:49 pm

Jamaica has the speed to still be lethal on the counter down to 10 men, so we need to be careful.

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Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:52 pm

Hasn’t been remarked upon yet, but the team has not approached this with the stupidity we saw under Berhalter, no acres of space to run into and the CB’s running toward their own goal on default

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:52 pm

4 mins of stoppage seems about right

Talonesque #
Reply to  Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:52 pm

In the former era, absolutely. A bit strange to see it in the modern age

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
Reply to  Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:54 pm

Apparently we have a ref with his head screwed on straight unlike the most recent Men’s world cup.

Will Nelson
Will Nelson
November 14, 2024 9:54 pm

Tillman draws a yellow from Hayden for Jamaica.

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:57 pm

Geez. Good result, take a shower, boys. Think you’re walking away with most of the turf attached to your outfits

Talonesque #
November 14, 2024 9:59 pm

And, as much as I hate to admit it, Tessman did not have a horrific showing as I expected. I’m not sold that he should get minutes over Busio, but he was not the weak link in a collapse

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